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	<title>Comments on: Force.com Advanced Developer Programming Assignment Complete!</title>
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	<description>Get your head out of your #@! and into the clouds!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Douglas</title>
		<link>http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2010/02/03/force-com-advanced-developer-programming-assignment-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmad, I added an answer to the stackoverflow URL. Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmad, I added an answer to the stackoverflow URL. Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmad</title>
		<link>http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2010/02/03/force-com-advanced-developer-programming-assignment-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeff,

I have a beginners question I needed some guidance on.  Unfortunately there aren&#039;t may resources on VisualForce.  Can you take a look at the link I included as my website and let me know what you think?  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeff,</p>
<p>I have a beginners question I needed some guidance on.  Unfortunately there aren&#8217;t may resources on VisualForce.  Can you take a look at the link I included as my website and let me know what you think?  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Luke C</title>
		<link>http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2010/02/03/force-com-advanced-developer-programming-assignment-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazel tov! Thanks for posting your experience with it, I&#039;m gearing up to do it this year (Maybe at Dreamforce to save $300) and it&#039;s encouraging to hear how you&#039;re proceeding. Until Change Sets are stable, it&#039;s definitely advantageous to do as much as you can in Production. If only we could get away with that in our client&#039;s orgs more easily!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazel tov! Thanks for posting your experience with it, I&#8217;m gearing up to do it this year (Maybe at Dreamforce to save $300) and it&#8217;s encouraging to hear how you&#8217;re proceeding. Until Change Sets are stable, it&#8217;s definitely advantageous to do as much as you can in Production. If only we could get away with that in our client&#8217;s orgs more easily!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2010/02/03/force-com-advanced-developer-programming-assignment-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, yes that makes sense.

Because I&#039;m the only force.com developer in my shop the benefits are not as obvious; but I can see there still are some.  Thanks for the informative blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, yes that makes sense.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m the only force.com developer in my shop the benefits are not as obvious; but I can see there still are some.  Thanks for the informative blog!</p>
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		<title>By: jeffdonthemic</title>
		<link>http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2010/02/03/force-com-advanced-developer-programming-assignment-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>jeffdonthemic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are definitely advantages to doing the declarative stuff in Production and then refreshing it to the sandbox. I &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2009/06/19/real-world-release-management-with-salesforce-com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote an in-depth article last summer&lt;/a&gt; that you may find interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are definitely advantages to doing the declarative stuff in Production and then refreshing it to the sandbox. I <a href="http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2009/06/19/real-world-release-management-with-salesforce-com/" rel="nofollow">wrote an in-depth article last summer</a> that you may find interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://blog.jeffdouglas.com/2010/02/03/force-com-advanced-developer-programming-assignment-complete/comment-page-1/#comment-428</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the finish, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll do fine!

I spent even more time, 40-something hours and really ran out of time to do the proper amount of testing (particularly on the scalability).  That surprised me because I think of myself as on the fast side.  I hope it doesn&#039;t come back to bite me but I feel reasonably confident.

My process was about the same as yours except one thing.  I built everything in the sandbox and pushed up.  Is there an advantage in your mind to doing some in production, then refresh, then code?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the finish, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll do fine!</p>
<p>I spent even more time, 40-something hours and really ran out of time to do the proper amount of testing (particularly on the scalability).  That surprised me because I think of myself as on the fast side.  I hope it doesn&#8217;t come back to bite me but I feel reasonably confident.</p>
<p>My process was about the same as yours except one thing.  I built everything in the sandbox and pushed up.  Is there an advantage in your mind to doing some in production, then refresh, then code?</p>
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